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	<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-35017</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it's not surprising that an artist would take a drug to breakthrough or enhance the creative experience...what is interesting is her response and how what came up, relates to the content of her work, and her mind....that is fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s not surprising that an artist would take a drug to breakthrough or enhance the creative experience&#8230;what is interesting is her response and how what came up, relates to the content of her work, and her mind&#8230;.that is fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria,WriterReading</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-35002</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria,WriterReading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry Parke: I suspect she ran off in those great sneakers realizing she could talk into a tape recorder while running and was never seen anywhere again, as she is still running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Parke: I suspect she ran off in those great sneakers realizing she could talk into a tape recorder while running and was never seen anywhere again, as she is still running.</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria,WriterReading</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34999</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria,WriterReading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fascinating and not the only drug that has been used to open up creative channels, like Cocaine. But what is interesting abut Ayahuasca is that it is meant to be part of religious rituals and in that context would have a completely different effect as religious rituals impose their own meanings and trance states and tend to take place in a safe, normative community setting rather than alone, with no emotional boundaries, no pre-defined meaning. It's kind of crazy to think you might think it OK to adopt a drug used in one context for use in a completely opposite context. Context is everything, even and especially regarding the effects of mind-altering drugs. I guess even very smart people can do very stupid things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fascinating and not the only drug that has been used to open up creative channels, like Cocaine. But what is interesting abut Ayahuasca is that it is meant to be part of religious rituals and in that context would have a completely different effect as religious rituals impose their own meanings and trance states and tend to take place in a safe, normative community setting rather than alone, with no emotional boundaries, no pre-defined meaning. It&#8217;s kind of crazy to think you might think it OK to adopt a drug used in one context for use in a completely opposite context. Context is everything, even and especially regarding the effects of mind-altering drugs. I guess even very smart people can do very stupid things.</p>
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		<title>By: bscribe</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34997</link>
		<dc:creator>bscribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verbivore, would you say more about your idea about creativity --"its more something we work toward"? As in, how we work toward it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verbivore, would you say more about your idea about creativity &#8211;&#8221;its more something we work toward&#8221;? As in, how we work toward it?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parke</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34996</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last post to suggest that dragons don't need to be fought with dragons.

I occasionally get writers for patients that complain of writer's block. Since my source of Ayahuasca has temporarily dried up, I must resort to other methods. I must confess I don’t miss the projectile vomiting. 

I usually begin by saying to the patient, "Oh, you're struggling with the Persephone Effect." This piques their curiosity and also places the problem outside of them. They have a problem, but they are not the problem.

I tell the story of Demeter and Persephone and the bargain struck with Pluto. As the result of losing her daughter, Demeter makes the earth cold and barren for almost six months. When Persephone returns, we enjoy spring and summer. 

Most people like to be associated with a myth, but this is usually not enough to solve the problem. I induct the patient into a hypnotic trance through drumming, rattling, or describing a place where they feel safe. Then I tell them a story tailored to their individual situation. 

I had a writer as a patient and I wasn't entirely sure that she wanted to start writing again. She was getting a secondary gain from not writing and I couldn't figure out what it was--maybe attention, money from home, a buffer against self-awareness, or a defense against having her writing rejected. It could have been any or all of the above.

During the induction when I tell the patient that their left arm is getting so light that it raises by itself off the chair, she didn't move. Big clue right there. It is almost like Jungian therapy when a complex comes up. The patient blocks. Something really didn’t want her to write. Therefore, I said when your left hand gets so heavy that you can't possibly move it then we'll know you’re ready. You have got to go where the patient/complex is.

The story I told her was this: There was a logging town with a huge problem. Timber had floated downriver and jammed so completely that no one could release the logs. The future income of the town was threatened. Fights broke out. People were looking for something or someone to blame. Then a stranger came to town. 

I deliberately avoided describing the stranger. I did not allow anyone to get a look at his face. He carried an enormous logging tool, and no one but he was able to lift it. He threaded his way out onto the logjam. He studied one log for a long time. He drove the pike into the log and rolled it. It broke the jam. Before anyone could thank him he was gone. 

Before I broke the trance, I told my patient that sometime soon she would start to write. Maybe it wouldn't be today, or tomorrow or this week. She would need a good instrument to write with--a tool that "only she could lift." She would begin her search right away. It might be a quite humble tool, but it wouldn't matter. She would know it when she saw it.

When I brought my patient out of the trance, she wanted to ask all kinds of questions about the process. I wouldn't answer them. I think I said, "Where did you get those cool running shoes?" and then I pushed her out the door. 

I planted the suggestion in the unconscious. It would find a way to physically engage her in writing. It would stimulate a response. We would ruin the effect if we dissected it in therapy. No need to make bricks to dam the unconscious.

I wish I could report success but I never saw this patient again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last post to suggest that dragons don&#8217;t need to be fought with dragons.</p>
<p>I occasionally get writers for patients that complain of writer&#8217;s block. Since my source of Ayahuasca has temporarily dried up, I must resort to other methods. I must confess I don’t miss the projectile vomiting. </p>
<p>I usually begin by saying to the patient, &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re struggling with the Persephone Effect.&#8221; This piques their curiosity and also places the problem outside of them. They have a problem, but they are not the problem.</p>
<p>I tell the story of Demeter and Persephone and the bargain struck with Pluto. As the result of losing her daughter, Demeter makes the earth cold and barren for almost six months. When Persephone returns, we enjoy spring and summer. </p>
<p>Most people like to be associated with a myth, but this is usually not enough to solve the problem. I induct the patient into a hypnotic trance through drumming, rattling, or describing a place where they feel safe. Then I tell them a story tailored to their individual situation. </p>
<p>I had a writer as a patient and I wasn&#8217;t entirely sure that she wanted to start writing again. She was getting a secondary gain from not writing and I couldn&#8217;t figure out what it was&#8211;maybe attention, money from home, a buffer against self-awareness, or a defense against having her writing rejected. It could have been any or all of the above.</p>
<p>During the induction when I tell the patient that their left arm is getting so light that it raises by itself off the chair, she didn&#8217;t move. Big clue right there. It is almost like Jungian therapy when a complex comes up. The patient blocks. Something really didn’t want her to write. Therefore, I said when your left hand gets so heavy that you can&#8217;t possibly move it then we&#8217;ll know you’re ready. You have got to go where the patient/complex is.</p>
<p>The story I told her was this: There was a logging town with a huge problem. Timber had floated downriver and jammed so completely that no one could release the logs. The future income of the town was threatened. Fights broke out. People were looking for something or someone to blame. Then a stranger came to town. </p>
<p>I deliberately avoided describing the stranger. I did not allow anyone to get a look at his face. He carried an enormous logging tool, and no one but he was able to lift it. He threaded his way out onto the logjam. He studied one log for a long time. He drove the pike into the log and rolled it. It broke the jam. Before anyone could thank him he was gone. </p>
<p>Before I broke the trance, I told my patient that sometime soon she would start to write. Maybe it wouldn&#8217;t be today, or tomorrow or this week. She would need a good instrument to write with&#8211;a tool that &#8220;only she could lift.&#8221; She would begin her search right away. It might be a quite humble tool, but it wouldn&#8217;t matter. She would know it when she saw it.</p>
<p>When I brought my patient out of the trance, she wanted to ask all kinds of questions about the process. I wouldn&#8217;t answer them. I think I said, &#8220;Where did you get those cool running shoes?&#8221; and then I pushed her out the door. </p>
<p>I planted the suggestion in the unconscious. It would find a way to physically engage her in writing. It would stimulate a response. We would ruin the effect if we dissected it in therapy. No need to make bricks to dam the unconscious.</p>
<p>I wish I could report success but I never saw this patient again.</p>
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		<title>By: verbivore</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34994</link>
		<dc:creator>verbivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm often skeptical of this kind of "help" for overcoming writers block or just opening up creativity. I think this is because I don't believe creativity is something we have to channel (meaning it happens to us, boom, and we run with it), its more something we work toward (meaning that creativity is a more controllable process). I find that comforting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m often skeptical of this kind of &#8220;help&#8221; for overcoming writers block or just opening up creativity. I think this is because I don&#8217;t believe creativity is something we have to channel (meaning it happens to us, boom, and we run with it), its more something we work toward (meaning that creativity is a more controllable process). I find that comforting.</p>
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		<title>By: bscribe</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34993</link>
		<dc:creator>bscribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 04:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Terry, actually it's "Charlottesville Words" that wrote she wants to do it. Thanks for all your info. 
@Ken, you share Murakami's ways, I remember. Robin, thanks for stopping by. I, too, do (obviously) think it's fascinating -- what one is willing to do to restore her passion, maybe. One's ability to make art or create is worth what to her/him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Terry, actually it&#8217;s &#8220;Charlottesville Words&#8221; that wrote she wants to do it. Thanks for all your info.<br />
@Ken, you share Murakami&#8217;s ways, I remember. Robin, thanks for stopping by. I, too, do (obviously) think it&#8217;s fascinating &#8212; what one is willing to do to restore her passion, maybe. One&#8217;s ability to make art or create is worth what to her/him?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parke</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34992</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Bella writes back that she wants to try Ayahuasca minus the retching and the demons. 

Ayahuasceros refer to the drug as the TV or Internet of the Amazon. It is a widely held belief that taking Ayahuasca multiple times allows your DNA to "speak" to the DNA of plants and animals. There are 80,000 plant species in the Amazon and humankind had about 10,000 years since the last Ice Age to figure out which plants were toxic and which were not. Ayahuasceros believe the plants "told" them what was safe to eat. When you think about it, there wasn't enough people or time for random sampling to work it out. So if you want to open yourself up to the DNA of everything else you're still going to retch and see demons—or worse.

Later if you're inclined to be eaten by a condor and spend a pleasant afternoon flying, devoured by a jaguar and sleep all afternoon in a tree, see how you will die, or see yourself dead, then this is the drug for you.

Ayahuasceros say that there are things that we know, things that we don't know and things that we don't know we don't know. The latter is where Ayahuasca takes you. Sometimes it is best not to know too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Bella writes back that she wants to try Ayahuasca minus the retching and the demons. </p>
<p>Ayahuasceros refer to the drug as the TV or Internet of the Amazon. It is a widely held belief that taking Ayahuasca multiple times allows your DNA to &#8220;speak&#8221; to the DNA of plants and animals. There are 80,000 plant species in the Amazon and humankind had about 10,000 years since the last Ice Age to figure out which plants were toxic and which were not. Ayahuasceros believe the plants &#8220;told&#8221; them what was safe to eat. When you think about it, there wasn&#8217;t enough people or time for random sampling to work it out. So if you want to open yourself up to the DNA of everything else you&#8217;re still going to retch and see demons—or worse.</p>
<p>Later if you&#8217;re inclined to be eaten by a condor and spend a pleasant afternoon flying, devoured by a jaguar and sleep all afternoon in a tree, see how you will die, or see yourself dead, then this is the drug for you.</p>
<p>Ayahuasceros say that there are things that we know, things that we don&#8217;t know and things that we don&#8217;t know we don&#8217;t know. The latter is where Ayahuasca takes you. Sometimes it is best not to know too much.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-16 &#171; Charlottesville Words</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-16 &#171; Charlottesville Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bellascribe › Ayahuasca for writer’s block I want to do this! As long as I could skip the retching and the demons. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bellascribe › Ayahuasca for writer’s block I want to do this! As long as I could skip the retching and the demons. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Parke</title>
		<link>http://bellascribe.com/blog/2008/04/15/ayahuasca-for-writers-block/#comment-34990</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Parke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 05:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ayahuasca is the "vine of death" in the Amazon. The root is boiled for days, and often laced with datura. It is a natural hallucinogen--not an industrial hallucinogen like LSD. No one takes Ayahuasca for fun. Ayahuasca should only be taken in a sacred context, and best administered by an Ayahuascero, someone that has completed over 1000 trips. It causes the user to projectile vomit in about 30 minutes with diarrhea following soon after. Very unpleasant. Then you have to deal with the visions. Whatever you fear the most is liable to be the subject of your trip. The vine shows the seeker a vision of their death in order to help them overcome that fear by direct confrontation with whatever manifests symbolically as that death. It is an odd drug to choose for writer’s block. Ayahuasca is contra-indicated for people with anxiety disorders. Some deaths have been associated due to cross-reaction with Western antidepressants.
 
San Pedro is another drug of Central and South America. It is much milder and is similar to peyote. The negative side effects are much less. One approaches San Pedro with a question they need answered. My experience is akin to sitting in your grandfather’s lap and told difficult things about yourself in a loving way. Curanderos use San Pedro in all night healing sessions. Both client and curandero consume the drug. It would seem San Pedro a better choice than Ayahuasca.
The San Pedro experience can briefly be re-created through the use of pipe tobacco. The user only get one question. Ayahuasca is prone to flashbacks.

A friend of mine on Ayahuasca was attacked by a huge python while on a trip to the Amazon. He ran like hell. Later he was in Switzerland sitting by a lake when the same python appeared. He allowed himself to be swallowed, and reports that he enjoyed being a snake for several hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ayahuasca is the &#8220;vine of death&#8221; in the Amazon. The root is boiled for days, and often laced with datura. It is a natural hallucinogen&#8211;not an industrial hallucinogen like LSD. No one takes Ayahuasca for fun. Ayahuasca should only be taken in a sacred context, and best administered by an Ayahuascero, someone that has completed over 1000 trips. It causes the user to projectile vomit in about 30 minutes with diarrhea following soon after. Very unpleasant. Then you have to deal with the visions. Whatever you fear the most is liable to be the subject of your trip. The vine shows the seeker a vision of their death in order to help them overcome that fear by direct confrontation with whatever manifests symbolically as that death. It is an odd drug to choose for writer’s block. Ayahuasca is contra-indicated for people with anxiety disorders. Some deaths have been associated due to cross-reaction with Western antidepressants.</p>
<p>San Pedro is another drug of Central and South America. It is much milder and is similar to peyote. The negative side effects are much less. One approaches San Pedro with a question they need answered. My experience is akin to sitting in your grandfather’s lap and told difficult things about yourself in a loving way. Curanderos use San Pedro in all night healing sessions. Both client and curandero consume the drug. It would seem San Pedro a better choice than Ayahuasca.<br />
The San Pedro experience can briefly be re-created through the use of pipe tobacco. The user only get one question. Ayahuasca is prone to flashbacks.</p>
<p>A friend of mine on Ayahuasca was attacked by a huge python while on a trip to the Amazon. He ran like hell. Later he was in Switzerland sitting by a lake when the same python appeared. He allowed himself to be swallowed, and reports that he enjoyed being a snake for several hours.</p>
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